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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Sun May 25, 2008 12:06 am

ok. i'll give counter this time.

[as previously posted.] numbers
1 = ichi
2 = ni
3 = san
4 = shi/yon
5 = go
6 = roku
7 = shichi/nana *for counters, normally use nana instead of shichi
8 = hachi
9 = kyuu
10 = jyuu

for person, just add 'nin' behind every number EXCEPT for 1 and 2.
1 = hitori
2 = futari
3 onwards just add the word 'nin' behind

for order [1st, 3rd, 5th etc], just add 'ban' behind
1 = ichi ban
5 = go ban
*7 = nana ban

for thin and flat things, add 'mai' behind

for frequency [how many times], add 'kai' behind EXCEPT for
1 = ikkai < not ichi kai
6 = rokkai < not roku kai
8 = hakkai < not hachi kai

for small things [dices, clips], add 'ko' behind EXCEPT for
1 = ikko < not ichi ko
6 = rokko < not roku ko
8 = hakko < not hachi ko

for machines and vehicles, add 'dai' behind

for age, add 'sai' behind

for books and notebooks, add 'satsu'. EXCEPT for
1 = issatsu < not ichi satsu
8 = hassatsu < not hachi satsu

for clothes, add 'chyaku'. EXCEPT for
1 = icchyaku < not ichi chyaku
8 = hacchyaku < not hachi chyaku

for floors [1st flr, 5th flr], add 'kai/gai'
1 = ikkai
3 = san gai
6 = rokkai

for thin and long things, add 'hon/bon/pon'
1 = ippon
2 = nihon < sounds like Japan doesn't it?
3 = san bon
4+5 = hon
6 = roppon
7 = hon
8 = happon
9 = hon
10 = pon


ok.. too much.. it will go on and on.. so i'll stop here

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Sun May 25, 2008 1:53 am

Wow ,you're so acknowledged ,lol ,i'm way too far from this level at this time ... got no much free timE >.<

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Sun May 25, 2008 2:54 am

>.< not really.. i'm still a newbie with jap actually... i can't speak in jap or mayb cause i don't have confident.. but i understand what they trying to say tho..

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Sun May 25, 2008 3:01 am

me too ,except for numbers and days as a general .. i even sometimes understand things better than the subs ,like in an episode of bleach when ichigo leaves souls sociaty yachiro tells kenpachi that ichigo's rietsu has disappeared but the subbers translate it Ichigo has departed ... and many other in various situations that one post won't b enough ,lol.

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Sun May 25, 2008 3:06 am

hahaha good for you!! see! you're good at it too!!

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Sun May 25, 2008 3:13 am

Ngin wrote:hahaha good for you!! see! you're good at it too!!
lol thanx but still way off from being enough ,also they always ignore some small things in the line like "dakara" and others ...

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Sun May 25, 2008 3:27 am

small lines are not that a big problem

i'm currently starting to hate those fansubbers that dun do they work properly.. not that i'm not greatful.. but serious.. the latest one i saw was... this guy was mumbling his words.. the fansub just ignore the whole sentance!! OMG! can't they check it out in the manga?!

that's why i sometimes dun read it.. just listen a few time b4 actually reading the subtitles.. it helps actually.. your jap that's it

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Sun May 25, 2008 3:35 am

of course and i saw this problem greatly in anime DVDs that are subbed and sold here ,i bought Elfen Lied and half the episode is wrong translating so many cool lines are stupidly translated it was the worst regarding that ,that's why i left that side now (buying animes) ...

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Sun May 25, 2008 11:41 pm

^.^ i nvr liked buying animes.. their sub really suck.. anyway.. there's another way to imporve your jap. you take an epi of any anime.. 1st round.. watch it while reading the subtitles.. then the next few rounds, try to pick up short words to listen.. then dun read the sub.. it worked for me. ^^

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Mon May 26, 2008 12:11 am

back to topic.. hehehehe

days
< of the month/how many days

1st = tsuitachi
2nd = futsuka
3rd = mikka
4th = yokka
5th = itsuka
6th = muika
7th = nanoka
8th = youka
9th = kokonoka
10th = tooka

14th = jyuu yokka
*17th = jyuu shichi nichi < not jyuu nanoka
19th = jyuu kyuu nichi

*20th = hatsuka
24th = nijyuu yokka


xxth of the month/ xx days = xxnichi




i normally use for dates only cause i don't really know how to use it for the other.

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by .:Shinigami:. on Mon May 26, 2008 12:40 am

Archail wrote:of course and i saw this problem greatly in anime
DVDs that are subbed and sold here ,i bought Elfen Lied and half the
episode is wrong translating so many cool lines are stupidly translated
it was the worst regarding that ,that's why i left that side now
(buying animes) ...

Ngin wrote:^.^ i nvr liked buying animes.. their sub really suck..
anyway.. there's another way to imporve your jap. you take an epi of
any anime.. 1st round.. watch it while reading the subtitles.. then the
next few rounds, try to pick up short words to listen.. then dun read
the sub.. it worked for me. ^^

yea, you guys are so right...some animes that i bought.... the subtitles sux like mad, i cant even understand them, cz the grammar and sentence structure were incomprehensible @@!!
and i usually listen to the characters instead of looking at the subs.
even without subs, i can listen quite well lolz.

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Mon May 26, 2008 9:59 am

hey!! how you do the double quoting thing??? teach me!!

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ľuri $hinichi on Mon May 26, 2008 6:15 pm

Sorry to offend but i can c some just quoted from japanese dictionary... cheh

STILL, there are ppl who really do their homework looking phrases fr our beloved anime and manga. @NarutoOK This is what i found fr internet n i think it's quite useful n extra added to my current jap vocab so i hope it's helpful too for those who wan to learn more.

http://www.yale.edu/anime/essential-words.pdf


p.s. to Ngin, u can do it much better!!!

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by ~J3ffr3ytjw~ on Mon May 26, 2008 7:24 pm

soli to AniMaC members and fans
hope u guys understand tat this post was a "Learning Japanese"
tats mean it is a place for u to post the Japanese words for others to study but is not the chatting place
plz do cooperate wif us or else we will take some action over here
thanks ^^

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Mon May 26, 2008 10:17 pm

Ľuri $hinichi wrote:Sorry to offend but i can c some just quoted from japanese dictionary... cheh

STILL, there are ppl who really do their homework looking phrases fr our beloved anime and manga. @NarutoOK This is what i found fr internet n i think it's quite useful n extra added to my current jap vocab so i hope it's helpful too for those who wan to learn more.

http://www.yale.edu/anime/essential-words.pdf


p.s. to Ngin, u can do it much better!!!

*blush~ thanks! but i'm still a newbie.. you're are translater you shd be better in this.. btw.. some words from your link is not really correct >.< but oh well.. it could be explained like what it was explained

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Mon May 26, 2008 11:01 pm

parts of your body and illness

body = karada
face = kao
head = atama

eye = me
nose = hana [sounds like flower doesn't it.. haha]
lips/mouth = kuchi
teeth = ha
chin = ago [ah-go not english ago]
ear = mimi
hair = kami

neck = kubi
throat = nodo

chest = mune
shoulder = kata
arm = ude
elbow = hiji
hand = te
finger = yubi
fingernail = tsume
stomach = onaka

back = senaka
leg = ashi
knee = hiza


-----------------------------------
headache = atama ga itai
stomachache = onaka ga itai
toothache = ha ga itai

fever = netsu ga aru
cough = seke ga deru
runny nose = hana mizu ga deru
bleed = chi ga deru

nauseous = hakike ga suru
chill = samuke ga suru
dizzy = memai ga suru
diarrhea = geri o suru
constipation = benbi o suru

injured = kega o suru
burnt = yakedo o suru

no appetite = syouku yoku o suru
still at shoulders = kata ga koru
weary = karada go darui
itchy = kayui

cold = kaze
sprain = nenza
appendicitis = mouchou
bone fracture = kossetsu
hangover = futsuka yoi [futsuka< next day/2nd day]


*edited correction found by Arch
*2nd edit added 'head'


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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Tue May 27, 2008 2:28 am

why stomachache is go not ga?

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Thu May 29, 2008 10:17 pm

sorry! typo! i'll edit in that post!! gomen! and thanks.. wow you've been reading.. hehehehe

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Thu May 29, 2008 10:28 pm

COLORS ^.^

Whilte = shiro[n] shiroi[adj]
black = kuro[n] kuroi[adj]
red = aka[n] akai[adj]
blue = ao[n] aoi[adj]

yellow = ki-iro[n] ki-iroi[adj] < i added the '-' to divide the two 'i'
brown = chairo[n] chairoi[adj]

green = midori[n]
purple = murasaki[n]

pink = pinku[n] < in katakana only
orange = orenji[n] <in katakana only
gray = gure- [n] <in katakana only; '-' behind is to prolong the sound
beige = be-jiu [n] <in katakana only; '-' is to prolong the sound

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ngin on Thu May 29, 2008 10:44 pm

i'll post one more for i didn't online for some time ^.^

PLACES

museum = hakubutsukan
art museun = bijutsukan
library = toshokan
movie theater = eigakan
zoo = doubutsukan
botanicla garden = shokubutsukan
amusement park = you-enchi [ '-' is to divide the words only]

Buddhist temple = otera
Shinto shrine = jinja
Christian Church = kyoukai
Mosque = mosuku <in katakana

gymnasium = tai-ikukan [ '-' is to divide the two 'i's
swimming pool = po-ru <in katakana; '-' is to prolong the sound
park = kouen

city hall = shiyakusho
police = keisatsusho
police box = kouban
fire station = shyoubousho
parking lot = chyuushajyo

university = daigaku
senior high = koukou
junior high = chyuugakukou
elementary sch = shougakukou
kindergraten = yochi-en < '-' to divide the words only

bakery = pan ya <pan is in katakana
vegetable shop = ya-oya < '-' to divide words only
coffee shop = kissaten < the ones the really sell coffee
convenience store = konbini <in katakana
supermarket = su-pa- ['-' is to prolong the sound; in katakana
department store = depa-to ['-' is to prolong the sound; in katakana

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by house88kend on Sat May 31, 2008 12:09 pm

Yeah, more japanese words updated!I think I can use these words for my comic...hehehe hamsap

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Post by lichgriffin@yahoo.com on Sat May 31, 2008 12:56 pm

what the? half the colors are used as characters names in many animes seriees ,thank you very much Ngin.

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Post by Ngin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:37 am

arch> no prob. ^.^ and yes.. they are actually names in Jap.. cause the kanji words are the same ^.^

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Re: Learning Japanese

Post by Ľuri $hinichi on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:33 pm

Ngin-chan, gomen ne, but I'm not Japanese language translator n only amateur in this field. Some more I'm not even have any cert in Japanese as u do ~blush~lol!

I don't believe attending class (OMG, i'll died, lay on sofa whole day watching anime is totally different case), cuz my English doesn't got any improvement though I invest a lot in it. Trust the acquisition learning, as what I succeed in my Cantonese, haha (but slow progress la cuz no one to refer even though got doubts). I appreciate n prefer what u updated recently in phrases @NarutoOK than u only quote the vocabulary previously.

Got one question,@NarutoQ is onaka suika correct in speech? Cuz the anime character said so although other characters say the familiar one- onaka ga suite. When can they omit but still grammartically correct?

Domo Arigatou ~bow 90°~

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Post by Ngin on Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:51 am

yuri> thanks ^.^ i'm currently trying to translate manga but it's kinda hard actually. cause i know what they are sayin in jap, but i can't phrase it in english @.@ i've only done a few pages and i'm going crazy.

oh.. i dun have a cert. as well ya know. it's only a proficiency exam. and the lower lv summore >.< i noob.

i dun really like phrasing cause i'm not really good at it either. i'm fixing my phrasing as well.

as for your question, the correct word is supposed to be onaka ga sukimashita means i'm hungry. and onaka ga ippai desu for i'm full.

the main word here is su. su and add the tense.

HOWEVER, in speech is a totally different thing, they use a lot, A LOT of slang and short-cut words. or even old japanese [eg Atsu-hime, j-drama. history of jap] i'm currently watching Atsu-hime but i can't understand a single word!!

writing and speech is very different. it is as well in english. eg. the word Good Morning. you'll write it as Good Morning but when you talk to your friend, you'll just say the word morning.

so it's something like that. there is no really right or wrong actually. all you have to do is to get the main word then the others are grammar and slang problem.. ^.^ oh. it also applies if you are talking to a person, elder, younger, a friend, a stranger or even a family member as well. cause it has different way of speaking to an elder person and to your friend and also to your familiy member.
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